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		<title>By: A Reader Responds to &#8220;Six Types of Engineers&#8221; &#124; The Cranky Product Manager</title>
		<link>http://crankypm.com/2006/11/that-all-the-responsibility-and-no-authority-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-1680</link>
		<dc:creator>A Reader Responds to &#8220;Six Types of Engineers&#8221; &#124; The Cranky Product Manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 06:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on product managers just as much as (if not more than) software engineers &#8212; in fact, those posts are the most popular by far, in a readership where PMs outnumber developers by 8 to 1. All further [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on product managers just as much as (if not more than) software engineers &#8212; in fact, those posts are the most popular by far, in a readership where PMs outnumber developers by 8 to 1. All further [...]</p>
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		<title>By: How to Get Hired By The Cranky Product Manager &#124; The Cranky Product Manager</title>
		<link>http://crankypm.com/2006/11/that-all-the-responsibility-and-no-authority-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-881</link>
		<dc:creator>How to Get Hired By The Cranky Product Manager &#124; The Cranky Product Manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thereof). They might &#8220;relate&#8221; while you wax poetically on the profound challenges of having responsibility without formal authority.  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bob corrigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob corrigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 19:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have only three words for any of my minions who forget to obey my every whim with breathless enthusiasm: Respect my Authoritah.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ahem.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m convinced that the best PMs don&#039;t even know how they do &quot;it&quot; - it&#039;s a gift that can&#039;t be taught, only refined.  Trees &quot;leaf&quot;, dogs &quot;bark&quot;, PMs &quot;inspire&quot;.  And bribe, wheedle, cajole, blackmail, taunt, beg and occasionally bargain.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Happy Thanksgiving, all!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have only three words for any of my minions who forget to obey my every whim with breathless enthusiasm: Respect my Authoritah.</p>
<p>Ahem.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m convinced that the best PMs don&#8217;t even know how they do &#8220;it&#8221; &#8211; it&#8217;s a gift that can&#8217;t be taught, only refined.  Trees &#8220;leaf&#8221;, dogs &#8220;bark&#8221;, PMs &#8220;inspire&#8221;.  And bribe, wheedle, cajole, blackmail, taunt, beg and occasionally bargain.</p>
<p>Happy Thanksgiving, all!</p>
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		<title>By: Roger L. Cauvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger L. Cauvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One thing I would add is that buy-in from execs is important.  It doesn&#039;t matter how much credibility or &quot;authority&quot; a product manager has over peers if the CEO vetoes the PM&#039;s strategic recommendations.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So a large part of a PM&#039;s job is to communicate effectively and build credibility with execs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A company in which execs and PMs are not strategically aligned is sick.  Unfortunately, this situation is common.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I would add is that buy-in from execs is important.  It doesn&#8217;t matter how much credibility or &#8220;authority&#8221; a product manager has over peers if the CEO vetoes the PM&#8217;s strategic recommendations.</p>
<p>So a large part of a PM&#8217;s job is to communicate effectively and build credibility with execs.</p>
<p>A company in which execs and PMs are not strategically aligned is sick.  Unfortunately, this situation is common.</p>
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		<title>By: Saeed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Positional authority, (which those who directly manage people have), is very different from influential authority (which a product manager has). &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anyone Product Manager who has had to deal with obstinate development managers knows this very well. Who are the developers going to follow?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Additionally, in many companies, the role of   product management is ill-defined or ill-understood, particularly by those in senior management, and especially so in many Bay Area companies. In one company I worked at, the role of product management was distilled down, by the Director of Product Management, into the following:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;  Collect and evangelize requirements.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This guy came from a very technology centric company where Development called the shots. Guess who had authority in the company I worked at?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Changing company culture is difficult. In many companies, Product Managers don&#039;t have authority and so, don&#039;t be so cranky on people who feel that way. Show them there is a better way, and let them know your company is different. Then, if they are deficient in some other ways, end the interview and send them packing.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Positional authority, (which those who directly manage people have), is very different from influential authority (which a product manager has). </p>
<p>Anyone Product Manager who has had to deal with obstinate development managers knows this very well. Who are the developers going to follow?</p>
<p>Additionally, in many companies, the role of   product management is ill-defined or ill-understood, particularly by those in senior management, and especially so in many Bay Area companies. In one company I worked at, the role of product management was distilled down, by the Director of Product Management, into the following:</p>
<p>  Collect and evangelize requirements.</p>
<p>This guy came from a very technology centric company where Development called the shots. Guess who had authority in the company I worked at?</p>
<p>Changing company culture is difficult. In many companies, Product Managers don&#8217;t have authority and so, don&#8217;t be so cranky on people who feel that way. Show them there is a better way, and let them know your company is different. Then, if they are deficient in some other ways, end the interview and send them packing.</p>
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		<title>By: The Cranky Product Manager</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Cranky Product Manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Praveena, &lt;br /&gt;
The Cranky Product Manager hearts you too.  But please don&#039;t cyberstalk her. Please.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Liz, &lt;br /&gt;
Don&#039;t worry, all is forgiven.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Praveena, <br />
The Cranky Product Manager hearts you too.  But please don&#8217;t cyberstalk her. Please.</p>
<p>Liz, <br />
Don&#8217;t worry, all is forgiven.</p>
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		<title>By: The Cranky Product Manager</title>
		<link>http://crankypm.com/2006/11/that-all-the-responsibility-and-no-authority-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-829</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cranky Product Manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Paul, the Cranky Product Manager does indeed believe she is in violent agreement with you.  Product Management is a hard job that requires prodigous communication skills, but not one that is necessarily harder than any other job that demands results.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, the Cranky Product Manager does indeed believe she is in violent agreement with you.  Product Management is a hard job that requires prodigous communication skills, but not one that is necessarily harder than any other job that demands results.</p>
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		<title>By: The Cranky Product Manager</title>
		<link>http://crankypm.com/2006/11/that-all-the-responsibility-and-no-authority-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-830</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cranky Product Manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jank, you are indeed correct. The Cranky Product Manager wrongly stated that minimum wage workers might be motivated by authoritarian dictates. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Cranky Product Manager was so muddle-headed when she wrote that statement that she forgot her own minimum wage past, and the surly service she offered from the fast food counter. She was cranky, even at age 16, and undeterred by the scolding of her &quot;manager&quot; who habitually told team members to &quot;shut the f@#$ up and just do what I say.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the reminder.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jank, you are indeed correct. The Cranky Product Manager wrongly stated that minimum wage workers might be motivated by authoritarian dictates. </p>
<p>The Cranky Product Manager was so muddle-headed when she wrote that statement that she forgot her own minimum wage past, and the surly service she offered from the fast food counter. She was cranky, even at age 16, and undeterred by the scolding of her &#8220;manager&#8221; who habitually told team members to &#8220;shut the f@#$ up and just do what I say.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for the reminder.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 19:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I guess the point of my article about responsibility vs. authority was not as clear as it could have been.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My point was that most people think of &quot;authority&quot; as the chain-of-command, I-can-order-you-to-do-something flavor.  As a PM, you can&#039;t rely on that kind of authority, so you need to develop great communications skills and use Follow the Leader style to inspire those who don&#039;t report to you to do what you want.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That said, I stand by my post.  I will say that it wasn&#039;t meant as a whine as much as it was a recognition of a reality that PM&#039;s must deal with, which is why I offered some (IMHO) helpful tools to overcome the problem.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe that puts us in violent agreement?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the point of my article about responsibility vs. authority was not as clear as it could have been.  </p>
<p>My point was that most people think of &#8220;authority&#8221; as the chain-of-command, I-can-order-you-to-do-something flavor.  As a PM, you can&#8217;t rely on that kind of authority, so you need to develop great communications skills and use Follow the Leader style to inspire those who don&#8217;t report to you to do what you want.</p>
<p>That said, I stand by my post.  I will say that it wasn&#8217;t meant as a whine as much as it was a recognition of a reality that PM&#8217;s must deal with, which is why I offered some (IMHO) helpful tools to overcome the problem.</p>
<p>Maybe that puts us in violent agreement?</p>
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		<title>By: jank</title>
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		<dc:creator>jank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Like product managers, they legitimately do so ONLY by persuading and inspiring. NOT by fear nor the unspoken threat of bad performance reviews or firings. NOT by flexing their so-called &quot;authority.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As a Navy officer (8 years active, 4 years reserve), even in cases where there is actual and honest to god &quot;authority&quot;, it is, almost without exception, a mistake and a failure to have to use it. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The exception being the rare case where something is on fire, water is coming into the people spaces, or someone is shooting actual bullets in your direction.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And, even during the exceptions, results will generally be better if you have spent the time without immediate threat to life and limb developing people, training, and making sure that, when the time comes, people are properly motivated and knowledgable to do the right thing because they know it&#039;s the right thing, not because they&#039;re being told to.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Official Authority&quot; should be irrelevant to anyone interested in being a truly good or effective manager, regardless of blue collar/white collar/minimum wage/highly paid knowledge worker/pet owner. Resorting to &quot;Because I told you so&quot; is nearly always a failure.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(the exception being when my f&#039;n 6 year old just won&#039;t stop making the 2 year old cry. In that case, &quot;Because I told you so&quot; is the proper course instantly)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like product managers, they legitimately do so ONLY by persuading and inspiring. NOT by fear nor the unspoken threat of bad performance reviews or firings. NOT by flexing their so-called &#8220;authority.&#8221; </p>
<p>As a Navy officer (8 years active, 4 years reserve), even in cases where there is actual and honest to god &#8220;authority&#8221;, it is, almost without exception, a mistake and a failure to have to use it. </p>
<p>The exception being the rare case where something is on fire, water is coming into the people spaces, or someone is shooting actual bullets in your direction.</p>
<p>And, even during the exceptions, results will generally be better if you have spent the time without immediate threat to life and limb developing people, training, and making sure that, when the time comes, people are properly motivated and knowledgable to do the right thing because they know it&#8217;s the right thing, not because they&#8217;re being told to.</p>
<p>&#8220;Official Authority&#8221; should be irrelevant to anyone interested in being a truly good or effective manager, regardless of blue collar/white collar/minimum wage/highly paid knowledge worker/pet owner. Resorting to &#8220;Because I told you so&#8221; is nearly always a failure.</p>
<p>(the exception being when my f&#8217;n 6 year old just won&#8217;t stop making the 2 year old cry. In that case, &#8220;Because I told you so&#8221; is the proper course instantly)</p>
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