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		<title>By: Alex R.</title>
		<link>http://crankypm.com/2007/05/the-value-of-an-mba-in-product-management/comment-page-1/#comment-6525</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 20:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
I&#039;m a Project Manager for IS/IT projects and I&#039;m planning to take a MBA in Product Management.
Based on my background, do you think I can change careers and move to a Product Manager role after or during the MBA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
I&#8217;m a Project Manager for IS/IT projects and I&#8217;m planning to take a MBA in Product Management.<br />
Based on my background, do you think I can change careers and move to a Product Manager role after or during the MBA?</p>
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		<title>By: anish patel</title>
		<link>http://crankypm.com/2007/05/the-value-of-an-mba-in-product-management/comment-page-1/#comment-6387</link>
		<dc:creator>anish patel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 03:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;The Value of an MBA #in Product Management - http://t.co/acBUjknh (via #sociablesite) http://t.co/acBUjknh&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">The Value of an MBA #in Product Management &#8211; <a href="http://t.co/acBUjknh" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/acBUjknh</a> (via #sociablesite) <a href="http://t.co/acBUjknh" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/acBUjknh</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://crankypm.com/2007/05/the-value-of-an-mba-in-product-management/comment-page-1/#comment-3963</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If one has been laid off in this scourge, then it would make sense to go back to school. If not an MBA, then how about a Master&#039;s in your product area? My only issue is that a Master&#039;s is so expensive. In researching all the options for an MBA, I stumbled across a Wall St. Journal article about Jack Welch starting an MBA school at an accredited university: Chancellor in Cleveland. Curious, I followed up and found out that it was all online and costs in the low 20s. This was curious, was it a real MBA? Turns out it is a real MBA. What an affordable option for getting those &quot;stars on the lapel&quot; Greg talks about. 
I have 3 children. I don&#039;t want to steal from their 529, but I am itching to do something and starting my own business sounds more expensive than an MBA. I keep thinking that when the economy turns around, it will look nice on the resume. And I like learning. 

In work places past, some people with an MBA from Cracker Jack U seemed to be on the management track. I debate this back and forth; in the end, I agree that networking with people who know your work is the best alternative to blowing money on an MBA, cracker jack or not. Do it if you really want to learn and have the confidence it might bring you that you have covered all the bases. However, I would cringe if I had an MBA that was advertising on daytime television, (&quot;drive the big rigs&quot; , remember that?) and this is what worries me most about &quot;The Jack Welch Institute.&quot; Currenlty I see no sign of them except on the internet.  
I completed a 1 year Marketing Certificate program at a prestigious university; it gave me the tools I needed when I needed them. But no one has a clue what it was or how rigorous it really was. 
So what I am actually doing while I make up my mind is teach myself what I want to know. Do what you are most interested in! Follow your passion! There is a huge amount of material out there: MIT has free online class presentations from some very cool classes on operations and so forth. Did I mention they are Free? I downloaded a pile of material from an operations class and the only drawback was that it really made me want to BE in the class, taking notes and asking questions. 

I may not have that particular piece of paper, but I always have felt that the quality of one&#039;s work speaks for itself. Getting the work in the first place is the hard part these days. I suspect that for me, getting a Master&#039;s in Engineering would help more than an MBA. FWIW, I have been a hi-tech marketer for more than a decade. I am not a student of, nor a paid promoter of the Jack Welch Institute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If one has been laid off in this scourge, then it would make sense to go back to school. If not an MBA, then how about a Master&#8217;s in your product area? My only issue is that a Master&#8217;s is so expensive. In researching all the options for an MBA, I stumbled across a Wall St. Journal article about Jack Welch starting an MBA school at an accredited university: Chancellor in Cleveland. Curious, I followed up and found out that it was all online and costs in the low 20s. This was curious, was it a real MBA? Turns out it is a real MBA. What an affordable option for getting those &#8220;stars on the lapel&#8221; Greg talks about.<br />
I have 3 children. I don&#8217;t want to steal from their 529, but I am itching to do something and starting my own business sounds more expensive than an MBA. I keep thinking that when the economy turns around, it will look nice on the resume. And I like learning. </p>
<p>In work places past, some people with an MBA from Cracker Jack U seemed to be on the management track. I debate this back and forth; in the end, I agree that networking with people who know your work is the best alternative to blowing money on an MBA, cracker jack or not. Do it if you really want to learn and have the confidence it might bring you that you have covered all the bases. However, I would cringe if I had an MBA that was advertising on daytime television, (&#8220;drive the big rigs&#8221; , remember that?) and this is what worries me most about &#8220;The Jack Welch Institute.&#8221; Currenlty I see no sign of them except on the internet.<br />
I completed a 1 year Marketing Certificate program at a prestigious university; it gave me the tools I needed when I needed them. But no one has a clue what it was or how rigorous it really was.<br />
So what I am actually doing while I make up my mind is teach myself what I want to know. Do what you are most interested in! Follow your passion! There is a huge amount of material out there: MIT has free online class presentations from some very cool classes on operations and so forth. Did I mention they are Free? I downloaded a pile of material from an operations class and the only drawback was that it really made me want to BE in the class, taking notes and asking questions. </p>
<p>I may not have that particular piece of paper, but I always have felt that the quality of one&#8217;s work speaks for itself. Getting the work in the first place is the hard part these days. I suspect that for me, getting a Master&#8217;s in Engineering would help more than an MBA. FWIW, I have been a hi-tech marketer for more than a decade. I am not a student of, nor a paid promoter of the Jack Welch Institute.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Palmeter</title>
		<link>http://crankypm.com/2007/05/the-value-of-an-mba-in-product-management/comment-page-1/#comment-3672</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Palmeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Greg Council [07.02.09 at 11:56 am]

Good point, Greg, and in terms of adding value with stars-on-the-shoulder and &quot;features&quot; that makes sense.  The question I&#039;d ask, though, is about the cost/benefit.  If you were a product, is this the most cost effective way to add value?  Consider this: is the likely increase in revenue going to offset the up-front investment plus the opportunity cost of getting the MBA if you amortize over the remainder of your career?  Barring specific quid pro quo promotions (i.e. we don&#039;t promote people that don&#039;t have MBAs) there is reason to be skeptical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Greg Council [07.02.09 at 11:56 am]</p>
<p>Good point, Greg, and in terms of adding value with stars-on-the-shoulder and &#8220;features&#8221; that makes sense.  The question I&#8217;d ask, though, is about the cost/benefit.  If you were a product, is this the most cost effective way to add value?  Consider this: is the likely increase in revenue going to offset the up-front investment plus the opportunity cost of getting the MBA if you amortize over the remainder of your career?  Barring specific quid pro quo promotions (i.e. we don&#8217;t promote people that don&#8217;t have MBAs) there is reason to be skeptical.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Council</title>
		<link>http://crankypm.com/2007/05/the-value-of-an-mba-in-product-management/comment-page-1/#comment-3662</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Council</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree and disagree - ok, maybe I&#039;m entirely ambivalent about this but I have decided that I will go the MBA route even with having 12 years of experience within product management. Why? Two things:

1 - Steve mentions the primary motivator and that&#039;s &quot;show me the money&quot;. Like it or not, the number of stars on your shoulder impact the initial perception you make with others and it all goes up or down from there. 

2 - I want to remove a potential career roadblock. You know, kind of like arming your salesforce with arguments to counter potential sales blocking of customers? Well, I&#039;m selling myself and I want to have all the &quot;features&quot; so I can focus on my true value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree and disagree &#8211; ok, maybe I&#8217;m entirely ambivalent about this but I have decided that I will go the MBA route even with having 12 years of experience within product management. Why? Two things:</p>
<p>1 &#8211; Steve mentions the primary motivator and that&#8217;s &#8220;show me the money&#8221;. Like it or not, the number of stars on your shoulder impact the initial perception you make with others and it all goes up or down from there. </p>
<p>2 &#8211; I want to remove a potential career roadblock. You know, kind of like arming your salesforce with arguments to counter potential sales blocking of customers? Well, I&#8217;m selling myself and I want to have all the &#8220;features&#8221; so I can focus on my true value.</p>
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		<title>By: PDMA Los Angeles</title>
		<link>http://crankypm.com/2007/05/the-value-of-an-mba-in-product-management/comment-page-1/#comment-4610</link>
		<dc:creator>PDMA Los Angeles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Is an MBA in Product Management worth it? http://is.gd/M12e #prodmgmt #productmanager&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Is an MBA in Product Management worth it? <a href="http://is.gd/M12e" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/M12e</a> #prodmgmt #productmanager</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Rafael M. Lopes</title>
		<link>http://crankypm.com/2007/05/the-value-of-an-mba-in-product-management/comment-page-1/#comment-4611</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael M. Lopes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 12:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Is an MBA in Product Management worth it? http://is.gd/M12e #prodmgmt #productmanager&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Is an MBA in Product Management worth it? <a href="http://is.gd/M12e" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/M12e</a> #prodmgmt #productmanager</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Steve Johnson</title>
		<link>http://crankypm.com/2007/05/the-value-of-an-mba-in-product-management/comment-page-1/#comment-3592</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 12:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it certainly matters to your income: MBAs can expect more take-home pay over time than product managers without. See http://www.pragmaticmarketing.com/publications/survey/2005/does-a-masters-degree-make-a-difference for details</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it certainly matters to your income: MBAs can expect more take-home pay over time than product managers without. See <a href="http://www.pragmaticmarketing.com/publications/survey/2005/does-a-masters-degree-make-a-difference" rel="nofollow">http://www.pragmaticmarketing.com/publications/survey/2005/does-a-masters-degree-make-a-difference</a> for details</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Palmeter</title>
		<link>http://crankypm.com/2007/05/the-value-of-an-mba-in-product-management/comment-page-1/#comment-3560</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Palmeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 19:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knowledge can be acquired but the talent for learning and the personality to make use of that talent cannot be.  An education is much less relevant than demonstrable skills and actual experience with the work at hand (whatever it may be).  The farther we get in our careers the less relevant education becomes - at some point, it is really nothing more than the last sentence in an executive bio.  To be successful as a PM, focus on building up a track record of success and a large network of people who know you well enough to understand what you have accomplished - they&#039;ll be the ones that will hire you, refer you and accept offers from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knowledge can be acquired but the talent for learning and the personality to make use of that talent cannot be.  An education is much less relevant than demonstrable skills and actual experience with the work at hand (whatever it may be).  The farther we get in our careers the less relevant education becomes &#8211; at some point, it is really nothing more than the last sentence in an executive bio.  To be successful as a PM, focus on building up a track record of success and a large network of people who know you well enough to understand what you have accomplished &#8211; they&#8217;ll be the ones that will hire you, refer you and accept offers from you.</p>
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		<title>By: Ram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am planning to spend120k into my MBA(Product Marketing) . With an engineering background, I feel that the MBA not only gives me the skills but also the much needed job ops. So I think MBA is also a gateway to a PM role for some folks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am planning to spend120k into my MBA(Product Marketing) . With an engineering background, I feel that the MBA not only gives me the skills but also the much needed job ops. So I think MBA is also a gateway to a PM role for some folks</p>
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