Comments on: To the Agile Community – WTF is wrong with you?

By: The Agile product manager – My $0.02 « New Product Development

The Agile product manager – My $0.02 « New Product Development — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:13:51 +0000

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By: Craig Sullivan

Craig Sullivan — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 08:24:40 +0000

Agile Jihad : Nice debate about Agile methods – I’m right in there with them : http://is.gd/pYWW

By: Craig Sullivan

Craig Sullivan — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 01:23:46 +0000

Hey,

I’ve been a PM for many years and employed a few myself. There is a venn diagram I sometimes show people that has one circle with (People who can really project manage) and another with (People who’ve been on a f***ing agile course or read a book). There is an intersection between the two but there are also a lot of other people outside the overlap .

I once watched someone have a stand-up meeting (useless PM, great agile convert) when the dev team were trying desperately to release code critical to a project. The timing was wrong, they misread the signals, didn’t communicate but hey, they were fundamentally borking the work in an *agile* way hehe.

I’m a convert to agile methods and I’ve used them long before they became fashionable but never in a way that interfered with or ignored my PM antennae. Draw the venn diagram.

By: Maria Murphy

Maria Murphy — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:07:50 +0000

Agile/Scrum is not all that > http://tinyurl.com/cosgz8

By: Carlos Silva

Carlos Silva — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:29:58 +0000

Someone reaaaaaally doesn’t like the Agile/Scrum process (maybe it’s the context?) http://tinyurl.com/cosgz8

By: gillian_clark

gillian_clark — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:59:08 +0000

@pmagile from the crankyproject manager – follow the gourd :-) http://tinyurl.com/cosgz8

By: Ken Pomper

Ken Pomper — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 22:05:27 +0000

Yes, you get true-believers for many, many things. Sometimes they can get a lot done with their intense focus and passion. This can be a good thing, but not always. It can be hard not to get swept up when the tipping point of popularity is reached. That’s why perspective and wisdom is important — choose the good ideas but realize that there are still many sources of good ideas and don’t fall into the trap of “when you’ve got a new hammer, everything looks like a nail”. Agile has the advantage of a good framework and common language for solving problems and there is a lot be said for that as a starting point, but it is not the whole story.

By: Tim Wright

Tim Wright — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:41:20 +0000

Don’t you the hard core fringe with most things?

* Linux
* Debian
* Emacs
* USA is the best (or is not the best)
* religion
* ways to cook a chicken
* vegetarianism (or wearing fur)
* etc, etc.

Now, do we require the moderates in each of those positions to control the lunatic fringe? Should we?

Hmm, perhaps we should ;)

Tim

By: Jake Calabrese, CBAP

Jake Calabrese, CBAP — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:37:33 +0000

RT @jonbab1: Bookmarked: To the Agile Community – WTF is wrong with you? | The Cranky Product Manager http://tinyurl.com/cw45lg

By: Jonathan Babcock

Jonathan Babcock — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:24:34 +0000

Bookmarked: To the Agile Community – WTF is wrong with you? | The Cranky Product Manager http://tinyurl.com/cw45lg